So how many people out there have suffered from discrimination? I’d take at guess at most of the population in one way or another… Personally, as a TransSexual, I have been the target of discrimination, ridicule and damn right rudeness for some time so I get more and more immune to it.

Today however, I write about a form of discrimination that all of us can be caught by. I’m off to a Rammstein concert on the 4th February 2010, at Wembley Arena. Now, I’m not all that much of a fan of Rammstein, don’t get me wrong though… I like the music, but my partner is the big fan and I’m taking her to see them as a treat for a devout follower of a band she has never had the chance to see live (not to mention the fact that I love her
.)
Now the discrimination… Wembley Arena publish a “terms and conditions” list, which amongst other sensible things states (under “General Point 2″):
The Event Promoter may ask the Venue to prohibit the use of all, or certain types of cameras. In general, fixed lenses are acceptable, but please check with the Venue if in any doubt. Video/audio recordings are prohibited. Prohibited items may be confiscated.
Now knowing this, and and seeing on the Wembley Stadium site that they have a prohibited items list which includes:
• Professional cameras & recording devices (This applies to cameras that have interchangeable lenses)
…and that it is often quite difficult to distinguish professional cameras (mine regularly gets confused with a professional camera as I have a handle and battery pack which makes it look huge), and “Fixed lens cameras” would mean cameras without a zoom (ie all compact cameras). I emailed Wembley Stadium and Arena about clarification on what constitutes a “Professional Camera”. The reply I received was not very clear being:
Our standard policy is no professional cameras (ie anything with a 35mm+ lens), audio or video recording equipment. Small cameras are OK.
On some shows, the artiste requests a total ban on all cameras – this is not the case to date on this show but if things change, it will be listed on our website – www.wembleyarena.co.uk
Now that to me, means the person sending it doesn’t know what she’s talking about because I could therefore take a Nikon D3s with a lens of up to but not including 35mm into Wembley. Of course a Nikon D3s is their newest Professional use camera, and by the same vein it might ban my 11 year old niece’s Christmas present a Fuji FinePix s1500 (might ban because they did say detachable lens, where the Fuji Finepix s1500 has a built-in non-changable lens, however it sports a 300mm zoom lens and ISO6400.)
I replied with:
Caroline, thank you for your response to my partner, I only have my
Digital SLR camera, I don’t have another camera (not even a phone
camera.) My Camera quite a number of years old and has never been
considered professional as it is a ‘DX’ format sensor (FX was, and still
is considered the professional standard). In fact as I just recently
came into money I’m considering replacing it for a newer model that is
pretty indistinguishable from the professional cameras.Back to your reply.. Are you suggesting that I can bring that if I use a
20mm lens on it… I consider that extremely restrictive as my 11 year
old niece has a Compact camera with a low light capabilities (so say
F2.8 equivalent according to Fuji) 300mm zoom lens which to get such a
lens for my ailing DSLR would cost me in excess of 2000 pounds. Further
my nieces camera, being brand new, has the ability to take 45 minutes of
high definition video (assuming enough storage space.) Needless to say
I haven’t got such a lens or video capability and considering the size
and weight of such a lens I’d not even consider bringing it to a concert.I am disappointed and feeling some what discriminated against as others
are allowed to bring cameras which are better than mine just because 3
years ago I decided buy the best camera I could afford to replace the
one I had stolen. Maybe that was a bad choice on my part, but why
should it be? I am not a professional photographer, I bought it because
it is versatile and yet I am being discriminated against by being barred
from taking photos at concerts where others with better cameras are
permitted.For information we will be in the upper tier seated area so it’s not
even as if I can use my 20mm lens to get wide angle low light shots that
any professional might get.Best regards,
Michelle
Which I thought was fair, and on checking the specifications of my Niece’s camera for this article have realised an error. The FinePix s1500 lens is F2.8 in wideangle and F5.6 at 300mm. I received a short and curt response from “Caroline” as follows:
By all means bring the camera but if when inspecting it, it is considered to be a ‘professional’ camera, it will be confiscated.
Caroline
Somewhat incensed I wrote back with:
Confiscated? I’d like to see you (the company) or any private police
force you may hire try, that would be theft (a criminal act of which I
would ensure you (the company) would be prosecuted for and I would
ensure every newspaper in England was told of the case.)Confiscate:
–verb (used with object)
1. to seize as forfeited to the public domain; appropriate, by way of
penalty, for public use.
2. to seize by or as if by authority; appropriate summarily: The border
guards confiscated our movie cameras.
–adjective
3. seized.Define what classes as “professional” here in email so I can bring the
definition with me to ensure that whom ever inspects my camera is aware
of what is “professional” as per Wembley stadium/Live Nation (Music) UK Ltd.If it is a camera with a detachable lens, then you are discriminating
against SLR users, as many SLRs (both digital and non-digital) are not
professional cameras by any stretch or twisting of the imagination.Please note: a DX format digital SLR is not the Digital version of the
35mm camera, only a FX format digital SLR is.
Then on reflection, I wrote a more detailed, and level reply as follows:
Caroline,
Further to my last, something for you to review/consider (I’ll stick to
Nikon as I own Nikon myself):A professional camera:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/camera-reviews/nikon/d2x-slr/nikon-d2x-slr-review.html
Note the picture and wording reinforces “professional”:
Unlike most digital camera upgrades, the new D2X was four years in the
making – its sibling, the D1X SLR was released back in 2001. Unlike
other professional digital SLRs, the D2X has a split personalityClearly citing the camera as a professional camera. The D3, D3s and D3x
are replacements for this camera as it went out of production in 2007.The D700 a semi-pro camera that I would love to buy:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/camera-reviews/nikon/d700-slr/nikon-d700-slr-review.html
MELVILLE, N.Y. (July 1, 2008) ? Nikon, Inc. today introduced the new
D700 digital SLR camera featuring a 12.1-effective megapixel Nikon
FX-format sensor that measures 23.9 x 36mm, which is nearly identical to
the size of 35mm film. Benefiting from Nikon?s legacy of imaging
technology innovation, the D700 offers both advanced and professional
photographers stunning image quality, accurate color reproduction and
revolutionary low light performance.“Offers both advanced and professional photographers” … would suggest
it would fall into the pro category.The D300 (the replacement model for mine):
http://www.steves-digicams.com/camera-reviews/nikon/d300-slr/nikon-d300-slr-review.html
Note unlike the D2X no mention of “professional” in the pictures.
Nikon has introduced their most advanced DX-format digital SLR camera to
date, the D300. Engineered with pro- level features and performance, the
12.3 effective megapixel D300 combines brand new technologies with
advanced features inherited from Nikon’s newly announced D3 professional
digital SLR to offer serious photographers remarkable performance
combined with agility. The D300 also employs a new self-cleaning sensor
unit. Four different resonance frequencies vibrate the optical low pass
filter in front of the image sensor to shake particles free and reduce
the appearance of dust.Note the wording… serious photographers, not professional nor
advanced, nor ’semi-pro’ etc.. It also refers to the “newly announced D3
professional camera”….Now onto my camera:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/camera-reviews/nikon/d200-slr/nikon-d200-slr-review.html
Again the photos do not refer to it as a pro camera, and the first part
of the text:The Nikon D200 is a high performance digital SLR camera designed to
satisfy the requirements of demanding photographers. It combines brand
new technologies with advanced features inherited from the D2X
professional digital SLR camera. The D200 employs a newly developed
10.2-megapixel DX Format CCD image sensor, a sophisticated 1005-pixel 3D
Color Matrix Metering II system and an advanced Nikon image processing
engine to render images with superb clarity and smooth color gradations.
With an all new 11-area Autofocus system, robust control of Nikon’s
i-TTL Creative Lighting System and advanced Wi-Fi image transmission
options it’s a natural choice for wedding, event and action photographers.Mentions it as a “high performance digital SLR” for “demanding
photographers” … no mention at all of it being professional or even
semi professional. In fact this camera went out of production in August
2007 … I know this because the discontinuation was announced the day
after I bought mine.Now, just to add to the affray, I contacted the promoters of the
Australian Elton John tour, about the same issue, and they said, “No
problem, just no large flashes and no tripods, if you can hold it you
can bring it.” This I found a fair and just policy. I went to the Bon
Jovi concert in Melbourne a couple of years ago and was allowed in with
the camera providing, no tripods, no big flashes and that it was not on
their pro-camera list (which included the Nikon D1, D2, D2x, D2s Cannon
1D (all models) and Cannon 5D plus some other non mainstream and film
cameras.)So again I am asking for confirmation as to whether my camera is allowed
or not. My camera is the Nikon D200 high performance non-professional
out dated (by 3 years) Digitial SLR camera. I will be attach a cheap
zoom lens that came with the camera and expect to hold it throughout the
concert. I will not be bringing any high powered flashes because from
my seating position I’d need to use a 15A mains outlet or portable
generator to create enough of a flash to light a performer. I will not
be bringing a tripod to get long exposure pictures either…Thank you,
Michelle
This morning, after resending requesting an answer I received the following response:
Sorry for the delay in responding but I had forwarded your comments to
venue management and below is their reply:-If deemed to be ‘professional’, i.e. with a detachable lens, you will be
asked to leave the camera behind reception for the duration of the
performance and collect it at the end of the performance. If you do not
wish to leave the camera at reception but insist on bringing it to the
performance then we as a venue do reserve the right of admission and we
may not allow you into the venue.The decision to restrict the use of detachable lenses is two-fold.
Firstly it allows for a definitive line to be drawn between those
cameras that are acceptable and those that are not. Secondly there is
the potential risk to public health should the lens become detached and
used as a missile. I apologise if you see this as discrimination but we
have to draw the line somewhere and this classification has proved to be
the most acceptable to both promoters, whose intellectual property could
be at risk of infringement, and to the majority of our customers.
Without such a guideline we would potentially be forced to prevent any
cameras from coming into the venue at all which we would prefer not to
have to resort to.Caroline
So it appears that a camera with a detachable lens is deemed ‘professional’ and their decision to restrict detachable lens cameras is based on the potential risk I might detach a lens that is worth several hundred pounds and use it as a missile….! How ludicrous! How absolutely laughable! If I wanted to throw something, I’d be taking a couple of pockets full of batteries and throwing them. Further if they were limiting the number of batteries anyone could take, I’d be buying cheap digital cameras (you can get a cheap one for around 29 pounds) and throw that.
The line is imaginary, it is to discriminate against those who don’t have the luxury of multiple cameras, against those who in pursuit of their hobby spent the money on the best they could afford some years previous, and have not got the money to waste on buying a compact camera.
Perhaps as I have a bit of money, instead of upgrading my camera as planned tomorrow, I’ll buy the new Fuji Finepix HS10/HS11 as it has a x30 zoom (that’s a 720mm zome lens!), it can also record in full HD (1,920 x 1,080 pixels) at 30 frames per second and it’ll shoot RAW mode.. BUT … it has a non-detachable lens so it doesn’t cross the line of “professional camera”… Olympus also do a similar camera (to be released in March 2010) with the Olympus SP-800UZ and the Olympus SP-600UZ which retail for less than the cost of a cheap lens for any SLR owner at £369.99 and £259.99 respectively.
Of course both of these look like detachable lens cameras so my betting is they’ll ban those stating they look professional so I’ll probably opt for the much more handy Fuji FinePix F80EXR which is equipped with a F5.6, 270mm lens and has a sensitivity at 12 megapixels of ISO12800 (meaning it can virtually shoot in the dark)… It can also shoot 82 minutes of HD movie (720p) with two 8M SDHC cards (yes it takes 2 cards so you don’t need to change them.) What’s more, apart from the fact it will out perform a lot of ‘professional cameras’ it looks like an ordinary compact camera and retails for $299.00!
What more can I say except… NICE!
Wembley Arena management, feel free to contact me on +356 79 543115 if you have a problem with this idea, this blog, or want to change policy, especially as I’d much rather take my old Nikon D200 (or the upgrade to the D300s/D700) rather than waste money and the Earth’s resources on a compact camera. However, please do expect my experience and this blog to hit every news agency I can find a link to in the next couple of days, one hopes that one or two will republish this blog or expose Wembley Stadium’s clearly discriminatory policy.
A camera is a camera and there is very little difference between professional and non-professional these days, either allow them or do not allow them, and make your policy clear on the tickets as our tickets show no reference to prohibiting any type of camera. I’m sure many readers will have already picked up the last sentence, “Without such a guideline we would potentially be forced to prevent any cameras from coming into the venue at all which we would prefer not to have to resort to.” Which can be translated to, “Without such a guideline we would be forced to prevent all cameras and our multi-million pound profits would be impacted forcing smaller bonuses for our senior executives.”
Best regards,
Michelle
Bootnote: It took me 2 years of hard work and saving to get my Nikon D200 camera and it’s underwater housing, and another 3 years to get a couple of lenses and attachments that make it useful, and as my compact camera got stolen on my birthday last year, I have little desire to purchase a camera that would only get used for such things as concerts.
Update: Someone (not Wembley Stadium/Arena staff) messaged me and reminded me that they also ban recording devices (my understanding is ‘professional recording devices’). However, if this is the case, I’d like to point out that every compact camera on the current market has the ability to record video and most sound as well.. meaning that all cameras and mobile phones have to be banned under that policy…. they’ve already stated they allow them, so really they should get their house in order and provide clarity about whether they discriminate or not.